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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • tonytins@pawb.socialT tonytins@pawb.social
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    sad_detective_man@leminal.space
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    let's all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here

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    • V vinstaal0@feddit.nl

      Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

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      evil_incarnate@sopuli.xyz
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      I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.

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      • A andros_rex@lemmy.world

        or even water

        Already did.

        We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

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        tomenzgg@midwest.social
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        Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can't seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support "industry" and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).

        I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they're being logically consistent but I can't seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.

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        • 0 0x0@lemmy.zip

          Oh, so like they do in the uncivilized middle-east?
          Naaaah

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          dfx4509b_2@lemmy.org
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          Given the US is now ran by the New Fuhrer? I could see this being used against criticism of leadership or anything else resembling free will and not just piracy. I also find it sad that the day the US will probably die as a free country and turn into a dictatorship, is the same day it gained its independence in the first place.

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          • R r0ertel@lemmy.world

            I keep my seedbox in the planter at the coffee shop down the road with free WiFi.

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            beardedblaze@lemmy.world
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            #144

            Epic lol

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            • kevincox@lemmy.mlK kevincox@lemmy.ml

              Then they'll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.

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              manomorphos@lemmy.world
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              I hope that this doesn't come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).

              Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that's untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.

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                darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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                According to the article this is the USA. How on brand.

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                • M manomorphos@lemmy.world

                  I hope that this doesn't come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).

                  Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that's untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.

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                  kevincox@lemmy.ml
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                  In China there is no such thing as a throwaway number (at least outside of black markets). All numbers require ID to acquire.

                  For the US it would be a bit different. VOIP numbers do exist but they are often also blocked by services (this isn't black and white but there are services that will quite accurately map numbers into ranges like home/cell/business/VoIP).

                  But of course the assumption would be that if they start requiring phone numbers for WiFi access the logical next step would be to make all numbers traceable to humans.

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                  • dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.worldD dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world

                    You should already be underground

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                    frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    #148

                    Instructions unclear, now sitting in basement.

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                    • tonytins@pawb.socialT tonytins@pawb.social
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                      darkfuture@lemmy.world
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                      #149

                      Lol.

                      Do ISPs like making money?

                      Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

                      I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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                      • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

                        Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

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                        rozodru@lemmy.world
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                        #150

                        give it a few months, they're working up to it.

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                        • L lilililililil@lemmy.world

                          That mask almost fell but he’ll make sure it doesn’t slip again

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                          sturlabragason@lemmy.world
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                          We all wear masks

                          *it has come to my attention that my joke was not funny, that is all

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                          • M mesamunefire@piefed.social

                            This is how you get a new darknet.

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                            jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

                            VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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                            • M masterofn001@lemmy.ca

                              More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.

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                              yggstyle@lemmy.world
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                              Gonna be a lot of issues that come from this. Legally speaking. It's already on the books that an IP address doesn't represent a single person... so I'm not terribly clear on how they plan to enforce this even if it were to pass.

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                              • I imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works

                                Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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                                iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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                                Rich people skirting the law is nothing new.

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                                  callatecoyote@lemmy.world
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                                  #155

                                  Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.

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                                  • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

                                    Lol.

                                    Do ISPs like making money?

                                    Then they shouldn't disconnect users who pirate.

                                    I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don't do anything though because they like the money I give them.

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                                    alphaomega@lemmy.world
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                                    After switching to torbrowser for all my questionable searches and downloads, I no longer get notices from my ISP for like 10 years now

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                                      ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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                                      Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN's network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that's no good.

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                                      • J jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de

                                        In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

                                        VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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                                        lodemike@lemmy.today
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                                        Don't public trackers add random IPs?

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                                        • L lodemike@lemmy.today

                                          Don't public trackers add random IPs?

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                                          jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                          They could. The protocol also supports IP spoofing, so doxing could also be a thing.

                                          For individuals, it is a time consuming and costly legal process, whether justified or not. For the law firm, it costs a few cents per letter, but they get a few hundred (or more) euros when some sucker pays.

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