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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF fartswithanaccent@fedia.io

    They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?

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    deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works
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    USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

    Let that sink in.

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      phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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      Then the AI companies that have openly used pirated stuff could also get disconnected lol. Of course business will be fine and individuals will get shafted who expects anything different nowadays.

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      • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

        I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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        sillydude@lemmy.zip
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        Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.

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        • sickday@kbin.earthS sickday@kbin.earth

          i'd just go to a local fast food resturant and bring my portable piracy machine

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          kevincox@lemmy.ml
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          Then they'll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.

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          • D deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works

            I'm not doing piracy, I'm just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉

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            undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
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            This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.

            I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)

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            • J jimvandeventer@lemmy.world

              I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?

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              brazensigilos@ttrpg.network
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              Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕

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              • C compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do

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                huquad@lemmy.ml
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                I hate that you're absolutely correct

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                • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

                  I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                  hubertmanne@piefed.social
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                  more importantly because of accused. Just accused.

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                    pro@programming.dev
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                    Better source: https://torrentfreak.com/supreme-court-grants-coxs-bid-to-reexamine-liability-for-pirating-subscribers-250630/

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                    • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

                      The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.

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                      imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                      Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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                        yucandu@lemmy.world
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                        Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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                          yucandu@lemmy.world
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                          Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                          • Y yucandu@lemmy.world

                            Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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                            cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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                            • B brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world

                              This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

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                              osrsneedsf2p@lemmy.ml
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                              But it will make me pay for VPNs!

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                              • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

                                I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                                a7thstone@lemmy.world
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                                I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                                • Y yucandu@lemmy.world

                                  Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                                  yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
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                                  Yeah it’s fucked up

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                                    hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

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                                    • A a7thstone@lemmy.world

                                      I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                                      candletiger@programming.dev
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                                      Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

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                                      • D deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works

                                        USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

                                        Let that sink in.

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                                        corruptcheesecake@lemmy.world
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                                        • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone

                                          thank god i go to ireland to do all my torrenting.

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                                          kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                          i prefer to do mine in the czech republic, personally

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