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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • A antagnostic@lemmy.world

    But it's not piracy if you use it for an LLM, right‽

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    unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works
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    Yes we are all training our LLMs. Perfectly legal.

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    • R raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world

      Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

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      medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world
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      Supreme Court: "One of us! One of us!"

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      • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJ jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works

        to be fair the treaty never specified anything about water, and the Navajo nations should have had better lawyers or better guerilla warfare tactics if they wanted more negotiating power.

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        andros_rex@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, it worked so well at Alcatraz.

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        • steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.worksS steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works

          (Donald trump voice)
          "We should hold all food companys liable for users violent crimes, this man stabbed another man to death with a spoon! 30 minutes before he ate kraft mac and cheese. It gave him the energy to violently stab this innocent man"

          Lets hope they got common sense

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          hitekrednek@lemmy.world
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          What's crazy is that Trump claims to be against the current ruling in Sony's favor, and is siding with Cox.

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          • cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comC cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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            hitekrednek@lemmy.world
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            #127

            I can tell you that Mediacom cable will cut your service off for it, and you have to call in and get scolded before they turn it back on.

            And, if it happens 3 times, your service is disconnected permanently.

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            • S seralth@lemmy.world

              A load of game patchers use torrent tech to improve speeds. Lots of gamers torrent with out even realizing it

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              hitekrednek@lemmy.world
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              #128

              Hell, windows itself does it.

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              • I inferno@lemmy.ml

                "the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

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                vinstaal0@feddit.nl
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                Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

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                  mesamunefire@piefed.social
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                  This is how you get a new darknet.

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                  • R raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world

                    Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

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                    bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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                    Pretty sure they've already done that by not regulating social media better

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                    • R r0ertel@lemmy.world

                      Several countries require proof of ID to purchase a SIM card.

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                      bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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                      Ah yes I keep forgetting about all of those countries that the US Supreme Court has jurisdiction over

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                      • U unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works

                        Yes we are all training our LLMs. Perfectly legal.

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                        bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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                        Thanks for reminding me that I need to go train my LLM on the new season of Yellowjackets

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                          samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                          All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.

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                            solarspark@lemmy.ml
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                            Life depends more on accessing things online. This would just be punishing people beyond the scope of the case against people.

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                            • M mesamunefire@piefed.social

                              This is how you get a new darknet.

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                              themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              Yep there is no way they can block I2P, they have to block all of it.

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                              • I inferno@lemmy.ml

                                "the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

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                                utopiah@lemmy.world
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                                Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment... but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable... and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can't disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.

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                                • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone

                                  i just use mullvad on my router and port forward directly there

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                                  mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  That still won’t work. Either the forwarded port is getting blocked by Mullvad (which is bad) or you’re bypassing Mullvad to use the forwarded port (which is really bad). You’ve essentially roped yourself into a double-NAT situation, where your router has a forwarded port but the router behind yours (the VPN server, which you have no control over) doesn’t.

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                                  • R r0ertel@lemmy.world

                                    Several countries require proof of ID to purchase a SIM card.

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                                    utopiah@lemmy.world
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                                    I don't think eSIM providers do but I admit I didn't check. It'd be even more convenient, no need to leave your home to switch.

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                                      sad_detective_man@leminal.space
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                                      let's all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here

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                                      • V vinstaal0@feddit.nl

                                        Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

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                                        evil_incarnate@sopuli.xyz
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                                        I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.

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                                        • A andros_rex@lemmy.world

                                          or even water

                                          Already did.

                                          We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

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                                          tomenzgg@midwest.social
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                                          Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can't seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support "industry" and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).

                                          I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they're being logically consistent but I can't seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.

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