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  • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch

    This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.

    I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)

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    vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
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    Look at it this way. Who would you rather risk pissing off, your ISP or a VPS Hosting company?

    put the qbittorrent-wireguard container on the vps.

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    • peachman@lemmy.worldP peachman@lemmy.world

      Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.

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      peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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      Idk why but the simplicity of it has me convinced and so far it works well.

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      • G greenknight23@lemmy.world

        low key hope this happens.

        it's gonna be fuckin funny to watch all IT in the US grind to a halt because everyone who WFH can't work because their internet was cut off.

        then a week into mandatory office returns someone will get the whole datacenter cut off because they're running torrents from their laptop.

        dumb fucks are going after the worst people to fuck with.

        • fieldworkers
        • women
        • gamers
        • IT support

        don't fuck with IT. they know what filthy shit you watch from home.

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        peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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        And they don't care what filthy shit you watch from home so long as they don't have to see it

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        • peachman@lemmy.worldP peachman@lemmy.world

          Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.

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          deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works
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          I personally prefer Proton. They seem to get blocked less often.

          (And yes I'm aware of the CEO controversy, he seems more like a Libertarian to me, not some right wing extremist)

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          • P peoplebeproblems@midwest.social

            And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

            TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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            tower@lemmy.zip
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            Mullvad is the best $5 and change I spend each month.

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            • P peoplebeproblems@midwest.social

              And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

              TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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              hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip
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              I recommend AirVPN. Never had a problem w/ them & doesn’t require a special VPN client.

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              • sickday@kbin.earthS sickday@kbin.earth

                What will they do when entire College campuses lose internet access because half their students are pirating text books

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                jasondj@lemmy.zip
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                Isn't that the plan?

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                • P pattymcb@lemmy.world

                  What about legitimate torrented content? Are they going to outlaw the technology outright? Don't plenty of legitimate downloads use torrents to speed up software updates and such?

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                  seralth@lemmy.world
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                  A load of game patchers use torrent tech to improve speeds. Lots of gamers torrent with out even realizing it

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                  • sickday@kbin.earthS sickday@kbin.earth

                    What will they do when entire College campuses lose internet access because half their students are pirating text books

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                    whatamlemmy@lemmy.world
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                    They will use it as another excuse to damage education.

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                      steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works
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                      #67

                      (Donald trump voice)
                      "We should hold all food companys liable for users violent crimes, this man stabbed another man to death with a spoon! 30 minutes before he ate kraft mac and cheese. It gave him the energy to violently stab this innocent man"

                      Lets hope they got common sense

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                      • T tower@lemmy.zip

                        Mullvad is the best $5 and change I spend each month.

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                        cmdrshepard49@sh.itjust.works
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                        I love Mullvad and used them for years, but without port forwarding, they're not the service you want for torrenting. Some alternatives like AirVPN or ProtonVPN are better suited for that stuff.

                        Before the haters jump in and tell me "it works fine fer me!" it's only working because the user on the other end, like myself, have port forwarding set up. Since you don't have it, you'll never connect to anyone else like yourself nor will they be able to connect to you.

                        Of course there are alternatives like streaming and Usenet but there are tradeoffs no matter what you pick.

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                        • H huquad@lemmy.ml

                          I hate that you're absolutely correct

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                          gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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                          • H hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

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                            peteyestee@feddit.org
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                            Get to the point that you don't want their products. Consuming their stuff at all is like sporting brand name cloths and covering the logo.

                            Once you do this you will find you don't need most of it and it's just a waste of time anyway. The stuff that is authentic and that you genuinely need you can support.

                            It's honestly like quitting drugs.

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                            • R ryper@lemmy.ca

                              I'm pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don't have a right to electricity, or even water. They'll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.

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                              andros_rex@lemmy.world
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                              or even water

                              Already did.

                              We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

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                              • cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comC cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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                                pacattack57@lemmy.world
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                                I believe ISPs do not want to cut people off. All that does is push you to a competitor. They want to be able to hold you liable for damages

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                                • P peteyestee@feddit.org

                                  Get to the point that you don't want their products. Consuming their stuff at all is like sporting brand name cloths and covering the logo.

                                  Once you do this you will find you don't need most of it and it's just a waste of time anyway. The stuff that is authentic and that you genuinely need you can support.

                                  It's honestly like quitting drugs.

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                                  hawk17@lemmy.world
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                                  Dude - this is the truth. Thanks for giving me something to work towards.

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                                  • cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comC cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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                                    sabata11792@ani.social
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                                    I got one then another, then got a VPN...

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                                    • M masterofn001@lemmy.ca

                                      More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.

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                                      nauticalnoodle@lemmy.ml
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                                      Yeah, sure but to "steal something" is to imply that you're depriving the original owner use of the thing you stole. This is more like making an exact copy depriving nobody of use of the original thing.

                                      it's more like depriving someone use of roads, sidewalks, and doors because they got caught walking out of Kinkos

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                                        altphoto@lemmy.today
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                                        In the beginning we used to exchange cassettes. You would have a boombox with two cassettes. You would play one while you recorded on the other. Then you gave the cassette back to your friend. Next was the VCR with the big ass cassettes.

                                        Then you would do the same with floppies, then zip disks. Then one day CD recording was a thing, then DVDs. Then thumb drives and now portable HDDs. Basically the cheapest form or recording is always the most popular way for people to share stuff.

                                        The only ones who don't want us to share are those who want to make millions by never innovating.

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                                        • C candletiger@programming.dev

                                          Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

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                                          possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                          For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they're not completely doa.

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