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  • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

    I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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    hubertmanne@piefed.social
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    more importantly because of accused. Just accused.

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      pro@programming.dev
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      Better source: https://torrentfreak.com/supreme-court-grants-coxs-bid-to-reexamine-liability-for-pirating-subscribers-250630/

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      • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

        The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.

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        imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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        Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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          yucandu@lemmy.world
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          Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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            yucandu@lemmy.world
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            Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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            • Y yucandu@lemmy.world

              Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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              cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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              • B brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world

                This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

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                osrsneedsf2p@lemmy.ml
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                But it will make me pay for VPNs!

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                • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

                  I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                  a7thstone@lemmy.world
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                  I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                  • Y yucandu@lemmy.world

                    Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                    yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
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                    Yeah it’s fucked up

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                      hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                      Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

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                      • A a7thstone@lemmy.world

                        I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                        candletiger@programming.dev
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                        Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

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                        • D deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works

                          USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

                          Let that sink in.

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                          • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone

                            thank god i go to ireland to do all my torrenting.

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                            kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            i prefer to do mine in the czech republic, personally

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                              ultramagnus0001@lemmy.world
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                              Is piracy AI scraping?

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                                peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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                                And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

                                TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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                                  peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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                                  That sink is a vampire, don't let it in

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                                  • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch

                                    This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.

                                    I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)

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                                    vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
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                                    Look at it this way. Who would you rather risk pissing off, your ISP or a VPS Hosting company?

                                    put the qbittorrent-wireguard container on the vps.

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                                    • peachman@lemmy.worldP peachman@lemmy.world

                                      Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.

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                                      peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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                                      Idk why but the simplicity of it has me convinced and so far it works well.

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                                      • G greenknight23@lemmy.world

                                        low key hope this happens.

                                        it's gonna be fuckin funny to watch all IT in the US grind to a halt because everyone who WFH can't work because their internet was cut off.

                                        then a week into mandatory office returns someone will get the whole datacenter cut off because they're running torrents from their laptop.

                                        dumb fucks are going after the worst people to fuck with.

                                        • fieldworkers
                                        • women
                                        • gamers
                                        • IT support

                                        don't fuck with IT. they know what filthy shit you watch from home.

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                                        peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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                                        And they don't care what filthy shit you watch from home so long as they don't have to see it

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                                        • peachman@lemmy.worldP peachman@lemmy.world

                                          Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.

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                                          deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works
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                                          I personally prefer Proton. They seem to get blocked less often.

                                          (And yes I'm aware of the CEO controversy, he seems more like a Libertarian to me, not some right wing extremist)

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