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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

    I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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    sillydude@lemmy.zip
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    Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.

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    • sickday@kbin.earthS sickday@kbin.earth

      i'd just go to a local fast food resturant and bring my portable piracy machine

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      kevincox@lemmy.ml
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      Then they'll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.

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      • D deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works

        I'm not doing piracy, I'm just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉

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        undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
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        This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.

        I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)

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        • J jimvandeventer@lemmy.world

          I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?

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          brazensigilos@ttrpg.network
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          Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕

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          • C compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do

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            huquad@lemmy.ml
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            I hate that you're absolutely correct

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            • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

              I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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              hubertmanne@piefed.social
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              more importantly because of accused. Just accused.

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                pro@programming.dev
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                Better source: https://torrentfreak.com/supreme-court-grants-coxs-bid-to-reexamine-liability-for-pirating-subscribers-250630/

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                • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

                  The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.

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                  imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                  Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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                    yucandu@lemmy.world
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                    Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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                      yucandu@lemmy.world
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                      Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                      • Y yucandu@lemmy.world

                        Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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                        cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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                        • B brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world

                          This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

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                          osrsneedsf2p@lemmy.ml
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                          But it will make me pay for VPNs!

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                          • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

                            I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                            a7thstone@lemmy.world
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                            I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                            • Y yucandu@lemmy.world

                              Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                              yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
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                              Yeah it’s fucked up

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                                hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

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                                • A a7thstone@lemmy.world

                                  I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                                  candletiger@programming.dev
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                                  Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

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                                  • D deathbybigsad@sh.itjust.works

                                    USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

                                    Let that sink in.

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                                    • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone

                                      thank god i go to ireland to do all my torrenting.

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                                      kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      i prefer to do mine in the czech republic, personally

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                                        ultramagnus0001@lemmy.world
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                                        Is piracy AI scraping?

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                                          peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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                                          And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

                                          TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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