Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.
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caesar@indieweb.social you can load remote content from the fediverse via NodeBB, just enter the permalink into the search bar.
For users, enter the handle in the users page search bar.
caesar caesar@indieweb.social I've manually pulled in bumblefudge@socialhub.activitypub.rocks and sortekanin@socialhub.activitypub.rocks's posts now.
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caesar the Discourse link you posted raises another issue.
Its a similar thread to this one, but it has additional posters, and any edits made in my posts arent reflected.
So these conversations arent fully federated when there are some posts in that thread missing from this one.
Out of interest Omega, did you start your post on Discourse or on this site?eeeee I am native posting only
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
Going where no fediverse topic has gone before... not!
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-string-theory-2699363
>String theory is a mathematical theory that tries to explain certain phenomena which is not currently explainable under the standard model of quantum physics.
30 words or less people!
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
Omega, From your descriptive posts I thought you were a writer, but now a Physicist!
Many talents
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Omega, From your descriptive posts I thought you were a writer, but now a Physicist!
Many talentseeeee I always get a Schrödinger's cat vibe off these fediverse topics am I the only one?
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
Personally I think the word Federated is being used as if it was the word disseminated, which to me is more descriptively apt for common understanding.
“your post is disseminated across multiple platforms at once… across the fediverse… and you are like a sun, each post a ray of light that eventually reaches planets... soon disparate planetary religions spring up worshipping your name spanning light years across many galaxies”
Maybe not the last bit
Federated as it is used rather than it’s definition, seems more like a conflation shorthand of federation and dissemination into a single word placeholder, this might be my very personally arcane issue.
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
Here is an edited version of the wiki entry for the fediverse:
>The fediverse is a collection of social networks that can communicate with each other using a common protocol. Users of different websites can send and receive status updates, multimedia files and other data across the network.
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
How about... the fediverse is like what happens when you build a bunch of interstates between big websites
You could get into railroad and telegraph analogies to, draw your frame. It's the quantum location superposition of your post that's kinda the pickle to explain to the average noodle, or is it?
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eeeee I always get a Schrödinger's cat vibe off these fediverse topics am I the only one?
omega said in Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:
> eeeee I always get a Schrödinger's cat vibe off these fediverse topics am I the only one?Absolutely, you never know if fediverse posts did or didnt propagate, until they are observed! Haha
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omega said in Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:
> eeeee I always get a Schrödinger's cat vibe off these fediverse topics am I the only one?Absolutely, you never know if fediverse posts did or didnt propagate, until they are observed! Haha
eeeee Ha ha maybe you answered my last post as I was writing it!
Plus there is another maybe even better word i.e. federated > disseminated / propagated
I believe propagate/propagation is even more accurate way to describe the adventures of efforts in the fediverse!
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
One thing that hasnt really been tested yet, is volumes, and the data that needs to be shared if say contribitors are on different networks.
On your physics theme then the data share is potentially exponential as more people join the conversation.
Imagine a thread with 100 different origin posts and the updates required to keep everyone in sync -
One thing that hasnt really been tested yet, is volumes, and the data that needs to be shared if say contribitors are on different networks.
On your physics theme then the data share is potentially exponential as more people join the conversation.
Imagine a thread with 100 different origin posts and the updates required to keep everyone in synceeeee When you wrote Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:
> a thread with 100 different origin postsDo you mean each post originating first post action and commitment occurred on a different platform while the entire thread of 100 post is potentially equally visible on each of those different platforms all at the same time?
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eeeee When you wrote Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:
> a thread with 100 different origin postsDo you mean each post originating first post action and commitment occurred on a different platform while the entire thread of 100 post is potentially equally visible on each of those different platforms all at the same time?
omega yes, so post 101 could need to go to the previous (up to) 100 servers so those threads are in sync
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omega yes, so post 101 could need to go to the previous (up to) 100 servers so those threads are in sync
eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?
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eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?
omega said in Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:
> eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?Two, they talk about up and down spin
Analagous to up and down voting on Nodebb lol -
I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
Incidentally omega, I direct messaged on you here a while ago, did you see it?
It appears our federated convo working better than local one -
Incidentally omega, I direct messaged on you here a while ago, did you see it?
It appears our federated convo working better than local one -
I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
julian as I contributed to this thread also from my mastodon account, should that account (in principle) be getting notified of additional comments on here?
Its currently not, which does negate the observation that data transfer would increase as more people join a topic. However the exponential propagation previously mentioned does not seem to be working - its only on nodebb that this thread is expanding now?Edit: ^might be a Mastondon issue, as the Discourse version is expanding. Its just my mastodon version that isnt.
Edit2; Test to see if edits are updated yet
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julian as I contributed to this thread also from my mastodon account, should that account (in principle) be getting notified of additional comments on here?
Its currently not, which does negate the observation that data transfer would increase as more people join a topic. However the exponential propagation previously mentioned does not seem to be working - its only on nodebb that this thread is expanding now?Edit: ^might be a Mastondon issue, as the Discourse version is expanding. Its just my mastodon version that isnt.
Edit2; Test to see if edits are updated yet
eeeee Mastodon doesn't notify you unless you are explicitly mentioned.
In NodeBB when you reply, you subscribe to the topic (unless you opt out or "unwatch" it), but that doesn't happen in Mastodon.
NodeBB could propagate additional replies to Mastodon and other softwares, it doesn't right now.
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I had the opportunity to work with the team at OpenBeta on the re-launching of their community forums. They're one of our earliest v4 testers, since they've agreed to have ActivityPub enabled!
(Okay, more realistically I dragged them into it kicking and screaming, but they did provide the opportunity for the forum relaunch, so I'm taking the opportunities as they come!)
During the prep, I discussed some of the well-trodden concept of the fediverse to my co-admin, Ben (bean@community.openbeta.io and also bean@uvix.cc)... stuff I'm sure you've come across:
- Fragmented nature of conversations
- The idea of an instance
- Content discovery with respect to the follow-relationship model
... and wouldn't you know it, it's really hard to discuss these ideas, and Ben is actually fairly well-versed! He ran his own Iceshrimp instance, so all of this wasn't exactly new to him.
Part of it was that I had been steeped in the ActivityPub dev scene for almost a year, so it's hard to step back and explain to
mere mortalslaymennon-developers what exactly all this ActivityPub nonsense is.All I know it gets me thinking that I need to work with andypiper@macaw.social on documentation!
That new NodeBB instance, by the way, is https://community.openbeta.io
Edits arent reflected still. In theory can AcitivtyPub repost an updated post easily, or does it have no ability to retract a post to resend a corrected one?
