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What is a good text for the donation dialog in Lemmy?

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    nutomic@lemmy.ml
    wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 08:22 last edited by
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    The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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    • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
      1 Apr 2025, 08:22

      The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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      otter@lemmy.ca
      wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 09:29 last edited by
      #2

      You could add a word or phrase to remind people that it's being given away for free to anyone that wants to run it. That might get people to think about any benefit they are getting out of it, and how much they want to donate in response.

      I'm not sure what is the best wording for that, but just be careful in case someone misunderstands and thinks it might become paid someday. I've seen that complaint in the past

      For example, this could be misinterpreted:

      and if you want to keep using it for free


      You can also add a note about the frequency of the messages. Saying that you will only remind people once a year is nice to hear, and that way people won't dismiss it thinking they will do it when they are reminded the next time

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      • O otter@lemmy.ca
        1 Apr 2025, 09:29

        You could add a word or phrase to remind people that it's being given away for free to anyone that wants to run it. That might get people to think about any benefit they are getting out of it, and how much they want to donate in response.

        I'm not sure what is the best wording for that, but just be careful in case someone misunderstands and thinks it might become paid someday. I've seen that complaint in the past

        For example, this could be misinterpreted:

        and if you want to keep using it for free


        You can also add a note about the frequency of the messages. Saying that you will only remind people once a year is nice to hear, and that way people won't dismiss it thinking they will do it when they are reminded the next time

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        nutomic@lemmy.ml
        wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 09:46 last edited by nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 Jan 2025, 11:51
        #3

        Thanks for the suggestions. I changed the first sentence to "Lemmy is an open source project developed by volunteers and provided for free", and changed the hide button text:

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        • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
          1 Apr 2025, 08:22

          The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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          povoq@slrpnk.net
          wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 11:10 last edited by
          #4

          Imho the best would be one that is customizable by the instance admins.

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          • P povoq@slrpnk.net
            1 Apr 2025, 11:10

            Imho the best would be one that is customizable by the instance admins.

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            nutomic@lemmy.ml
            wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 11:58 last edited by
            #5

            You mean to add donation links for the instance? That makes sense, but I fear that it would be too complicated for users. Admins already have many ways to put donation links eg in the sidebar and sticky posts, but for developers theres only a small button at the top which is easy to miss. And our donations have gone down a lot, now only 2400 Euro per month.

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            • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
              1 Apr 2025, 08:22

              The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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              jumuta@sh.itjust.works
              wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 12:11 last edited by
              #6

              is the "hide permanently" button really necessary? I feel like a lot of users will click that without much thought, and a year sounds low frequency enough for me

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              • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
                1 Apr 2025, 11:58

                You mean to add donation links for the instance? That makes sense, but I fear that it would be too complicated for users. Admins already have many ways to put donation links eg in the sidebar and sticky posts, but for developers theres only a small button at the top which is easy to miss. And our donations have gone down a lot, now only 2400 Euro per month.

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                povoq@slrpnk.net
                wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 12:50 last edited by
                #7

                Well, I think a personalized message (maybe in the primary language of the instance) is more effective than some standard text thats everywhere.

                I think most instance admins realize that there is also a need to support the devs, and a single place that advertises both and can get linked from the sidebar might also be more bring more donations to the devs.

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                • P povoq@slrpnk.net
                  1 Apr 2025, 12:50

                  Well, I think a personalized message (maybe in the primary language of the instance) is more effective than some standard text thats everywhere.

                  I think most instance admins realize that there is also a need to support the devs, and a single place that advertises both and can get linked from the sidebar might also be more bring more donations to the devs.

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                  nutomic@lemmy.ml
                  wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 13:10 last edited by
                  #8

                  The dialog can also be translated using weblate (although thats not currently setup for 0.19 backports).

                  And the dialog cant be linked from other places. In any case we can still make changes after this is released based on feedback.

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                  • J jumuta@sh.itjust.works
                    1 Apr 2025, 12:11

                    is the "hide permanently" button really necessary? I feel like a lot of users will click that without much thought, and a year sounds low frequency enough for me

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                    nutomic@lemmy.ml
                    wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 13:29 last edited by
                    #9

                    Actually thats true. Gonna remove that button for now, we can still add it back later if there are too many complaints.

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                    • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
                      1 Apr 2025, 13:29

                      Actually thats true. Gonna remove that button for now, we can still add it back later if there are too many complaints.

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                      wiki_me@lemmy.ml
                      wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 13:38 last edited by
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                      Just add a timeout you have to wait before pressing, say 10-30 seconds.

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                      • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
                        1 Apr 2025, 09:46

                        Thanks for the suggestions. I changed the first sentence to "Lemmy is an open source project developed by volunteers and provided for free", and changed the hide button text:

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                        allero@lemmy.today
                        wrote on 1 Apr 2025, 15:03 last edited by
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                        Good, I also think the "some money" part in the end can be removed. It's obvious and at the same time makes it sound a bit more rough than it needs to be.

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                        • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
                          1 Apr 2025, 08:22

                          The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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                          frostytrichs@crazypeople.online
                          wrote on 2 Apr 2025, 00:46 last edited by
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                          Consider Donating To Support Lemmy

                          We're able to develop Lemmy as an open source platform free of tracking and ads thanks to the generosity of our users. Once a year we ask those who are able to consider donating to support the volunteers that develop and maintain this platform. Financial security allows us to continue current development projects and plan accordingly for long term projects. If you'd like to make a one-time or recurring donation simply click the button below. Thank you for using Lemmy.

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                            1 Apr 2025, 13:38

                            Just add a timeout you have to wait before pressing, say 10-30 seconds.

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                            nutomic@lemmy.ml
                            wrote on 2 Apr 2025, 08:26 last edited by
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                            No that would be too annoying.

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                              1 Apr 2025, 15:03

                              Good, I also think the "some money" part in the end can be removed. It's obvious and at the same time makes it sound a bit more rough than it needs to be.

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                              nutomic@lemmy.ml
                              wrote on 2 Apr 2025, 08:26 last edited by
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                              Youre right.

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                              • F frostytrichs@crazypeople.online
                                2 Apr 2025, 00:46

                                Consider Donating To Support Lemmy

                                We're able to develop Lemmy as an open source platform free of tracking and ads thanks to the generosity of our users. Once a year we ask those who are able to consider donating to support the volunteers that develop and maintain this platform. Financial security allows us to continue current development projects and plan accordingly for long term projects. If you'd like to make a one-time or recurring donation simply click the button below. Thank you for using Lemmy.

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                                nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                wrote on 2 Apr 2025, 08:53 last edited by nutomic@lemmy.ml 4 Feb 2025, 11:01
                                #15

                                This sounds very good, I used it with a few changes:

                                cc @morrowind@lemmy.ml

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                                • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                  1 Apr 2025, 08:22

                                  The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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                                  ladfrombrad@lemdro.id
                                  wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 06:24 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  I 99% of the time used reddit, and henceforth Lemmy via a mobile client (Boost at the moment) and am curious how you could target me.

                                  There's also the other frontends like Photon that I use on my PC (1% time.....) that if I'm thinking right also wouldn't show it?

                                  Cheers for all your work, it's much appreciated!

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                                    3 Apr 2025, 06:24

                                    I 99% of the time used reddit, and henceforth Lemmy via a mobile client (Boost at the moment) and am curious how you could target me.

                                    There's also the other frontends like Photon that I use on my PC (1% time.....) that if I'm thinking right also wouldn't show it?

                                    Cheers for all your work, it's much appreciated!

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                                    nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                    wrote on 3 Apr 2025, 09:03 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    That is true. You might see it if you use the default web interface once in a while, or app devs could also implement this feature. Anyway its better than nothing.

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                                    • N nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                      1 Apr 2025, 08:22

                                      The next Lemmy version will add a donation dialog, which is shown once a year to every user, in order to increase the amount of donations for Lemmy development. You can see the current text in the screenshot above and in the translations repo. You can also checkout the frontend PR. Is there anything you would change about the text?

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                                      dewege@feddit.org
                                      wrote on 6 Apr 2025, 15:43 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      From my POV not only „free of adds and tracking“ are important to underline. Also „free of political and commercial pressure“ is key, from my POV this is the most important, especially in the current political climate. I know this is not directly a reason why donations are needed, like the others are. But for someone to decide about a donation this is a very important reason to throw money in.

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                                      • D dewege@feddit.org
                                        6 Apr 2025, 15:43

                                        From my POV not only „free of adds and tracking“ are important to underline. Also „free of political and commercial pressure“ is key, from my POV this is the most important, especially in the current political climate. I know this is not directly a reason why donations are needed, like the others are. But for someone to decide about a donation this is a very important reason to throw money in.

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                                        nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                        wrote on 7 Apr 2025, 09:29 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        It seems difficult to explain these in such a short text. However I will make a similar post soon to improve the donation page on join-lemmy.org, maybe it could be included there as it has more space available.

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                                        • P povoq@slrpnk.net
                                          1 Apr 2025, 11:10

                                          Imho the best would be one that is customizable by the instance admins.

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                                          nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                          wrote 30 days ago last edited by
                                          #20

                                          I opened an issue regarding a donation dialog for instance admins, which seems closer to what you mean.

                                          https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5613

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