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  • M masterofn001@lemmy.ca

    More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.

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    nauticalnoodle@lemmy.ml
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    Yeah, sure but to "steal something" is to imply that you're depriving the original owner use of the thing you stole. This is more like making an exact copy depriving nobody of use of the original thing.

    it's more like depriving someone use of roads, sidewalks, and doors because they got caught walking out of Kinkos

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      altphoto@lemmy.today
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      In the beginning we used to exchange cassettes. You would have a boombox with two cassettes. You would play one while you recorded on the other. Then you gave the cassette back to your friend. Next was the VCR with the big ass cassettes.

      Then you would do the same with floppies, then zip disks. Then one day CD recording was a thing, then DVDs. Then thumb drives and now portable HDDs. Basically the cheapest form or recording is always the most popular way for people to share stuff.

      The only ones who don't want us to share are those who want to make millions by never innovating.

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      • C candletiger@programming.dev

        Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

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        possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they're not completely doa.

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          dfx4509b_2@lemmy.org
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          If it's upheld, that's the precursor to full-blown info blackouts, just cut off internet to anyone 'accused' of wrongspeak against the powers that be, which is basically everyone.

          This also sounds like SOPA reborn.

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          • P peoplebeproblems@midwest.social

            And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

            TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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            drdickhandler@lemmy.world
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            They have ways to block / identify VPNs.

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            • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

              I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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              colesloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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              They will cut off electricity if you do something illegal with it....

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                lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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                So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐

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                  lovablesidekick@lemmy.world
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                  Accused???

                  Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.

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                    asidonhopo@lemmy.world
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                    Like 20 years ago the RAVE Act said venues can be charged if anyone is in possession of illegal drugs inside of them during an event. Similar in some ways

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                    • L lepinkainen@lemmy.world

                      So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐

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                      clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world
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                      God willing

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                      • H hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip

                        I recommend AirVPN. Never had a problem w/ them & doesn’t require a special VPN client.

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                        qaz@lemmy.world
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                        I also use them but I often get blocked from sites when it's on

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                        • R ryper@lemmy.ca

                          The US has a law to limit the liability of gun manufacturers.

                          The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Both arms manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible. However, they may be held liable for negligent entrustment if it is found that they had reason to believe a firearm was intended for use in a crime.

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                          luffy879@lemmy.ml
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                          Because of fucking course there is

                          Were talking about Jesusland after all

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                            monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                            Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

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                            • L lovablesidekick@lemmy.world

                              Accused???

                              Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.

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                              monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                              And OpenAI of course.

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                              • L lepinkainen@lemmy.world

                                So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐

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                                tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                dint they just rule AI can legally scrape/books, but not for people who are pirating directly.

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                                • peachman@lemmy.worldP peachman@lemmy.world

                                  Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.

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                                  luffy879@lemmy.ml
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                                  But if you need to pay for a „Media Flatrate“ anyway, and you have those 5€ a month, why not spend it for a good cause?

                                  (Also PIA and nord cost 12€ a month unless you sign their predatory 2 year contracts [which are even then just like 1€ per month cheaper], so mullvad is just way better in that regard too)

                                  Also features like UDPoTCP let you bypass local network restrictions, and the ability to pay with cash and Crypto is great if you dont want want to/ cant use paypal or a bank account for any reason

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                                  • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

                                    Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?

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                                    raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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                                    Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

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                                      korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                                      4G piracy hub go brrrrr? Go ahead, disconnect me. I will get another SIM and resume piracy.

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                                      • D drdickhandler@lemmy.world

                                        They have ways to block / identify VPNs.

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                                        aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        I think the point is that they can't easilly track back to a specific client of a specific ISP instances of unlicensed downloading of copyrighted materials if they're done behind a VPN.

                                        Mind you, they can still easilly track it back to the VPN, so make sure you're using a provider that puts privacy above all an is not based in countries like the US or UK.

                                        That said, if they just throw an unsupported accusation at you and the ISP cuts you out, using a VPN or not makes no difference.

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                                          peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world
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                                          Guess it's time to go underground, sigh.

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