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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • tonytins@pawb.socialT tonytins@pawb.social
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    einlander@lemmy.world
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    We are going to end up with a super private and encrypted Internet because of it.

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      fartswithanaccent@fedia.io
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      The mere accusation causing someone to lose the Internet, which is vital to modern life, would be insane.

      Additionally, it would do little to nothing to stop piracy.

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      • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

        I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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        fartswithanaccent@fedia.io
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        They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?

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        • tonytins@pawb.socialT tonytins@pawb.social
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          pattymcb@lemmy.world
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          What about legitimate torrented content? Are they going to outlaw the technology outright? Don't plenty of legitimate downloads use torrents to speed up software updates and such?

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          • A aguyacrosstheinternet@fedia.io

            I'm not doing piracy, I am merely training my AI!

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            iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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            The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.

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            • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

              I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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              ryper@lemmy.ca
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              I'm pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don't have a right to electricity, or even water. They'll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.

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              • P panax@lemmy.world

                Based on that logic, ammunition and arms manufacturers should be held liable for damages as well.

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                ryper@lemmy.ca
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                The US has a law to limit the liability of gun manufacturers.

                The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Both arms manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible. However, they may be held liable for negligent entrustment if it is found that they had reason to believe a firearm was intended for use in a crime.

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                • P pattymcb@lemmy.world

                  What about legitimate torrented content? Are they going to outlaw the technology outright? Don't plenty of legitimate downloads use torrents to speed up software updates and such?

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                  atomicbunnies@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Yes. I share like 100+ Linux distros via torrents.

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                    cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                    thank god i go to ireland to do all my torrenting.

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                    • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF fartswithanaccent@fedia.io

                      The mere accusation causing someone to lose the Internet, which is vital to modern life, would be insane.

                      Additionally, it would do little to nothing to stop piracy.

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                      cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                      they actually do think that if you stop piracy people will flock back to streaming services when in reality all that will happen is i'll just watch more twitch.

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                        greenknight23@lemmy.world
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                        low key hope this happens.

                        it's gonna be fuckin funny to watch all IT in the US grind to a halt because everyone who WFH can't work because their internet was cut off.

                        then a week into mandatory office returns someone will get the whole datacenter cut off because they're running torrents from their laptop.

                        dumb fucks are going after the worst people to fuck with.

                        • fieldworkers
                        • women
                        • gamers
                        • IT support

                        don't fuck with IT. they know what filthy shit you watch from home.

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                        • P panax@lemmy.world

                          Based on that logic, ammunition and arms manufacturers should be held liable for damages as well.

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                          masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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                          More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.

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                          • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF fartswithanaccent@fedia.io

                            They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?

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                            corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                            Due process seems to just be a recommendation.

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                              sickday@kbin.earth
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                              What will they do when entire College campuses lose internet access because half their students are pirating text books

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                              • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

                                I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                                jimvandeventer@lemmy.world
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                                I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?

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                                • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone

                                  they actually do think that if you stop piracy people will flock back to streaming services when in reality all that will happen is i'll just watch more twitch.

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                                  sickday@kbin.earth
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                                  i'd just go to a local fast food resturant and bring my portable piracy machine

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                                  • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.world

                                    I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                                    taleya@aussie.zone
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                                    Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.

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                                      brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world
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                                      This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

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                                        abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                                        So all tech companies?

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                                        • C corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca

                                          Due process seems to just be a recommendation.

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                                          lupusblackfur@lemmy.world
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                                          Recommendation???

                                          No.

                                          It's a luxury you can try but only if you can afford it.

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