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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • J jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de

    In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people's identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.

    VPNs are common and usually sufficient.

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    tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    they try that in the US, using mass litigation, but it doesnt work, its usually designed to scare indivudal IP users to "turn them self in"

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    • B bold_atlas@lemmy.world

      My routine is always use piratebay, never use a pirate streaming site, no new or big studio releases, no porn, not seeding for long and choosing less active torrents. I can't say much for how effective it is since I've never gotten hit so I can't really experiment (I've had five or six ISPs in two different countries).

      they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them.

      And I don't even understand how this would hold up if it ever went to trial. How can an IP owner "pirate" their own IP? Even when they outsource it to services who do this they're still giving permission for the IP to be distributed.

      It's like hiring someone to "steal" your own TV, putting it in a back alley and then accusing whoever takes it of being a thief.

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      robust_mirror@aussie.zone
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      It's generally seen as okay on a similar level to undercover work. They do it for Investigation reasons, the torrent was already uploaded before they joined, their monitoring serves a legitimate law enforcement purpose, and they're authorized by the copyright holder (themselves) to do it. They didn't put the movie or whatever out there themselves.

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        zer0bitz@lemmy.world
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        See you guys in I2P 🙂

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        • Z ziltoid1991@lemmy.world

          Their uncivilized censorship regime vs. our civilized online child protection and anti-terror laws.

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          0x0@lemmy.zip
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          So you bought into the think of the children argument?
          You know that's a red-herring, right? It's really about eroding privacy.

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          • 0 0x0@lemmy.zip

            So you bought into the think of the children argument?
            You know that's a red-herring, right? It's really about eroding privacy.

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            ziltoid1991@lemmy.world
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            It was supposed to be a reference to a meme making fun of "us vs. them" mentalities. I know enough about the think of the children argument.

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            • M mangionedontmiss@lemmy.ca

              ha. all of my traffic is encrypted and routed through at least 3 pirate friendly countries and servers that don't keep logs. good fucking luck inspecting those packets.

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              hupf@feddit.org
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              behind 7 proxies

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              • I ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml

                Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN's network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that's no good.

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                darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl
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                Better to just configure a firewall properly so that no packets can go outside of the vpn tunnel.

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                • D darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl

                  Better to just configure a firewall properly so that no packets can go outside of the vpn tunnel.

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                  ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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                  How is that better? If you configure your firewall rules incorrectly, this protects you against that. This ensures you have no connection if your VPN isn't on/isn't working.

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                  • H hitekrednek@lemmy.world

                    What's crazy is that Trump claims to be against the current ruling in Sony's favor, and is siding with Cox.

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                    steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works
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                    Instruction unclear?
                    So trump like cocks?

                    Good for him!

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                    • Y yggstyle@lemmy.world

                      Gonna be a lot of issues that come from this. Legally speaking. It's already on the books that an IP address doesn't represent a single person... so I'm not terribly clear on how they plan to enforce this even if it were to pass.

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                      projectmoon@forum.agnos.is
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                      You assume precedent, consistency, or ethics matter to the current people in power in the US.

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