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FEP-4f05: Soft Deletion

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  • devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hi all,

    Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

    https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/4f05/fep-4f05.md

    devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD silverpill@mitra.socialS julian@community.nodebb.orgJ 3 Replies Last reply
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    • devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

      Hi all,

      Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

      https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/4f05/fep-4f05.md

      devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
      devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
      devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocks
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      #2

      @Claire, in Feb 2002, you created a topic where you mentioned soft deletes. While this isn't strictly related to Undo(Delete), this FEP recommends thinking of a received Delete as an instruction to invalidate the cache, and re-fetch, which would give you a better answer as to how to handle the received Delete or Undo(Delete).

      Perhaps this might help.

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      • devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

        Hi all,

        Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

        https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/4f05/fep-4f05.md

        silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
        silverpill@mitra.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
        silverpill@mitra.social
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        #3

        >Request the object (via its id) from the origin server directly

        Couldn't Delete activity itself indicate the type of operation?

        For example, if Delete contains embedded Tombstone, then treat it as a soft delete. Otherwise, treat it as a hard delete.

        >The Forums and Threaded Discussions Task Force (ForumWG) has identified a common nomenclature when referring to organized objects in a threaded discussion model.

        I find this nomenclature a bit confusing. Commented on the linked issue.

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        • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

          >Request the object (via its id) from the origin server directly

          Couldn't Delete activity itself indicate the type of operation?

          For example, if Delete contains embedded Tombstone, then treat it as a soft delete. Otherwise, treat it as a hard delete.

          >The Forums and Threaded Discussions Task Force (ForumWG) has identified a common nomenclature when referring to organized objects in a threaded discussion model.

          I find this nomenclature a bit confusing. Commented on the linked issue.

          devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
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          devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocks
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          #4

          The assumption is that the object is not embedded. If it is, then it stands to reason that the embedded object can be used as is. I'll call it out in that section, thanks.

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          • devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocksD devnull@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

            Hi all,

            Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

            https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/4f05/fep-4f05.md

            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            julian@community.nodebb.org
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            @rimu@piefed.social I noticed today that PieFed supports the concept of soft deletes:

            7b0318bb-2838-4675-b53e-28e6904ebf45-image.png

            Perhaps this FEP would be of interest to you.

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