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@julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

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  • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

    quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ jon@henshaw.socialJ julian@community.nodebb.orgJ ahimsa_pdx@disabled.socialA loganer@mastodon.socialL 5 Replies Last reply
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    • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

      @julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

      quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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      And now @julian is getting more serious

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      • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

        @julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

        jon@henshaw.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @quillmatiq @julian

        That is spot on πŸ˜‚

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        • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

          And now @julian is getting more serious

          quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @julian shouting out Fediscovery and the Fediverse Auxiliary Service Provider for better discovery tools on the Fediverse

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          • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

            @julian shouting out Fediscovery and the Fediverse Auxiliary Service Provider for better discovery tools on the Fediverse

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            @julian talking about the work he's doing so users can sign into other instances using your handle.

            HELL πŸ‘πŸΌ YES πŸ‘πŸΌ

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            • jon@henshaw.socialJ jon@henshaw.social

              @quillmatiq @julian

              That is spot on πŸ˜‚

              phillycodehound@indieweb.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jon @quillmatiq @julian brilliant!

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              • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                @julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                quillmatiq@mastodon.social credit also goes out to deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org for coming up with basically half of those slides!

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                • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                  @julian talking about the work he's doing so users can sign into other instances using your handle.

                  HELL πŸ‘πŸΌ YES πŸ‘πŸΌ

                  fentiger@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @quillmatiq @julian This is something I've been working on too: https://codeberg.org/FenTiger/FedIAM

                  Maybe we should collaborate.

                  Is there (or will there be) a video of this talk somewhere?

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                  • fentiger@mastodon.socialF fentiger@mastodon.social

                    @quillmatiq @julian This is something I've been working on too: https://codeberg.org/FenTiger/FedIAM

                    Maybe we should collaborate.

                    Is there (or will there be) a video of this talk somewhere?

                    quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @FenTiger @julian Yes! I believe @reiver will be posting all of these soon after the conference is done

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                    • fentiger@mastodon.socialF fentiger@mastodon.social

                      @quillmatiq @julian This is something I've been working on too: https://codeberg.org/FenTiger/FedIAM

                      Maybe we should collaborate.

                      Is there (or will there be) a video of this talk somewhere?

                      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @fentiger@mastodon.social let's collaborate with benpate@mastodon.social on getting a working implementation going.

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                      • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                        @FenTiger @julian Yes! I believe @reiver will be posting all of these soon after the conference is done

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                        @quillmatiq @julian @reiver Excellent! Looking forward to this one πŸ™‚

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                        • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                          @julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

                          ahimsa_pdx@disabled.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @quillmatiq @julian

                          I've been in all three of these scenarios! πŸ˜‚

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                          • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                            @julian shouting out Fediscovery and the Fediverse Auxiliary Service Provider for better discovery tools on the Fediverse

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                            @quillmatiq @julian

                            Delegating search to another party would be great! I'm on a small instance that has not implemented search due to limited time/resources.

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                            • ahimsa_pdx@disabled.socialA ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social

                              @quillmatiq @julian

                              I've been in all three of these scenarios! πŸ˜‚

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                              @ahimsa_pdx @julian many such cases!

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                              • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                                @ahimsa_pdx @julian many such cases!

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                                @quillmatiq @julian

                                I'm also very familiar with "Open original page" when certain replies aren't loading, or when images aren't loading.

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                                • ahimsa_pdx@disabled.socialA ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social

                                  @quillmatiq @julian

                                  I'm also very familiar with "Open original page" when certain replies aren't loading, or when images aren't loading.

                                  julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social there were actually ten slides 😹 wait for the video clip to come out in a couple days I think!

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                                  • quillmatiq@mastodon.socialQ quillmatiq@mastodon.social

                                    @julian diving into the hard problems of building for the Fediverse at #Fedicon, starting with hilariously talking about how those hard problems look like to average users πŸ˜…

                                    loganer@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @quillmatiq @julian hashtags are part of the text which encourages people to use less hashtags so that they can write more actual text instead.
                                    this also reduces the searchability because people cannot append appropriate hashtags that the original author might have forgotten.

                                    if tags were a separate list they could be added to similarly to how we can add emoji to other people's posts and they wouldn't subtract from the space for the actual text.

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                                    • loganer@mastodon.socialL loganer@mastodon.social

                                      @quillmatiq @julian hashtags are part of the text which encourages people to use less hashtags so that they can write more actual text instead.
                                      this also reduces the searchability because people cannot append appropriate hashtags that the original author might have forgotten.

                                      if tags were a separate list they could be added to similarly to how we can add emoji to other people's posts and they wouldn't subtract from the space for the actual text.

                                      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      loganer@mastodon.social actually...

                                      > if tags were a separate list

                                      They are, per the protocol. For the same reason I derided mention spamming in my presentation, tags don't need to be in the post body either.

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                                      • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                                        loganer@mastodon.social actually...

                                        > if tags were a separate list

                                        They are, per the protocol. For the same reason I derided mention spamming in my presentation, tags don't need to be in the post body either.

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                                        @julian but in the interface you still write it in into the same area as the rest of the text and it still counts on the character counter. #AsYouCanSeeHere

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                                        • loganer@mastodon.socialL loganer@mastodon.social

                                          @julian but in the interface you still write it in into the same area as the rest of the text and it still counts on the character counter. #AsYouCanSeeHere

                                          julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          loganer@mastodon.social correct! We're talking past each other and arguing the same thing. The Mastodon UI needs work 🫠

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