FUTO License, an alternative to Closed Source
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Every time this licenses comes up I have to repeat myself: It's source-available proprietary (free)ware; "source first" is "open source washing" at it's finest
From an old comment of mine:
[...] It strips you of the options the four essential freedoms provide.
IMO ["but protecting muh devs and making it financially viable as a for-profit"] is not rly an argument. Libre software is free as in freedom and not necessarily free as in beer. You could license it under the (A)GPL, charge for downloads in the Play store or for compiled binaries on ur website and ask for donations on F-Droid.
You could even do a freemium version where some features are locked in the binaries you distribute and need a license from ur website or smth (for those who don't want to use Google Play). (iirc SD Maid 2/SE does this)
E.g.: AFAIK the QT Framework (which I don't particularly like) is dual licensed, making it both Foss that ppl have to contribute back to and viable as a for-profit
You could license it under the (A)GPL, charge for downloads in the Play store or for compiled binaries on ur website and ask for donations on F-Droid.
You could even do a freemium version where some features are locked in the binaries you distribute and need a license from ur website or smth (for those who don't want to use Google Play). (iirc SD Maid 2/SE does this)
Someone else could just compile the app themselves, unlock all premium features and distribute it to play store without violating the license?
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Oh yeah. People believing in community built and owned software, that runs the entire internet, is totally the same thing as racism.
Just because you don't agree with the views of open source, doesn't make them brainwashed.
Because here, you come off as deranged calling others religious fanatics.
EDIT but what's really fucking funny to me is you call other people religious fanatics and racists. Or at least like them. While you fanatically paste the anti commercial linecse thing like it's 2012 Facebook again.
People believing in community built and owned software
Btw, I'm not arguing against this. I believe Open Source
is valuable and has its place. This post isn't about Open Source, despite most people on this thread trying to label the FUTO license as Open Source and then getting mad because it's not actually Open Source even though FUTO isn't claiming to be Open Source. This is something else.The main thing I'm thinking about is how to prevent Google, Facebook, etc from extracting huge amounts of wealth from small devs who get nothing in return. The obvious answer has been to release an app as closed source. That blocks out Big Tech AND users. Source Available licenses might be a third option to block out Big Tech, but not regular users.
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People believing in community built and owned software
Btw, I'm not arguing against this. I believe Open Source
is valuable and has its place. This post isn't about Open Source, despite most people on this thread trying to label the FUTO license as Open Source and then getting mad because it's not actually Open Source even though FUTO isn't claiming to be Open Source. This is something else.The main thing I'm thinking about is how to prevent Google, Facebook, etc from extracting huge amounts of wealth from small devs who get nothing in return. The obvious answer has been to release an app as closed source. That blocks out Big Tech AND users. Source Available licenses might be a third option to block out Big Tech, but not regular users.
I never said anything about you or your arguments. I was talking about the analogies the person used to antagonize everyone. And I love how you glossed over all of that to get a little bit hurt at me.
But while your here, your fighting the wrong battles.
Because we are much stronger doing things in the open than we will trying to pick and choose who gets to do what. Even small utilities can contribute to people learning and adapting.
So what if google also benefits? They benefit off of using TCP, SSL, and thousands of standard technology. Should those be charged as well? It's such a boogy man at the cost of other people learning and benefiting from what you've done the same way you benfit from others. It's not about gatekeeping, it's about being community.
I'm gonna draw another place I think too much effort is being given to making sure the "correct" people benefit and that's selective welfare programs. It's costs shit tons of money to administer programs like food stamps. When if we gave everyone UBI, it wouldn't matter. Because everyone gets it.
EDIT: In a copy left license, I still own the copyright to my work. So there's that as well.
But all that on a shelf. I don't give a fuck what you do with your software. I just don't want to be called a racists for whatever reason because I believe in community owned software.
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Source First License 1.1: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE.md
This is a non-open source license. They were claiming to be open source at one point, but they've listened to the community and stopped claiming they were open source. They are not trying to be Open Source
.They call themselves "source first". https://sourcefirst.com/
They're trying to create a world where developers can make money from writing source first software, where the big tech oligarchy can't just suck them dry.
I am using Futo Keyboard. Downloaded it when it was marketed as open source. Unfortunately found out a few days ago it isn't actually open source. It's still a damn good keyboard, but it's still unfortunate. AGPL exists for a reason. Oh well.
