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They Have No Idea How Fun The Water Park Is!

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      Half the success of Lemmy is not becoming the three ring circus of Reddit.

      How long will it last? Idk. I've already seen people complaining about AI bots blowing up their instances with requests, mining for data. I've already heard complaints of bots manipulating votes on certain subs and accounts.

      If that gets worse, Lemmy gets worse.

      But for the time being, we're mostly just a large community of terminally online nerds doing our things and sharing amongst one another, which is what Reddit was supposed to be about.

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      • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

        Half the success of Lemmy is not becoming the three ring circus of Reddit.

        How long will it last? Idk. I've already seen people complaining about AI bots blowing up their instances with requests, mining for data. I've already heard complaints of bots manipulating votes on certain subs and accounts.

        If that gets worse, Lemmy gets worse.

        But for the time being, we're mostly just a large community of terminally online nerds doing our things and sharing amongst one another, which is what Reddit was supposed to be about.

        grrgyle@slrpnk.netG This user is from outside of this forum
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        We might eventually have to get more exclusive, or have separate "public" and "private" modes/communities, maybe like how masto handles post visibility...

        I'm not sure if the open internet can ever be fully trusted, especially now with roving packs of predatory crawlers scraping for genuine human OC for their plagiarism machines.

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        • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG grrgyle@slrpnk.net

          We might eventually have to get more exclusive, or have separate "public" and "private" modes/communities, maybe like how masto handles post visibility...

          I'm not sure if the open internet can ever be fully trusted, especially now with roving packs of predatory crawlers scraping for genuine human OC for their plagiarism machines.

          irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI This user is from outside of this forum
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          I doubt they're crawling stuff over AP, you usually need a HTTP signature for that, and no bot is going to bother with those.

          Most crawling would just be spamming the web interface.

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            zebidiah@lemmy.ca
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            The main problem with Lemmy, is I see the same 20-50 posts for 3-4 days until there is a new front page...

            I fucking hate Reddit, but the front-page is always fresh, so I always end up going back....

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            • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              I doubt they're crawling stuff over AP, you usually need a HTTP signature for that, and no bot is going to bother with those.

              Most crawling would just be spamming the web interface.

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              If by HTTP signature you mean an SSL certificate signed by an authority, those do not present a burden for bots to obtain any longer.

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              • jerkface@lemmy.caJ jerkface@lemmy.ca

                If by HTTP signature you mean an SSL certificate signed by an authority, those do not present a burden for bots to obtain any longer.

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                I do not, ActivityPub uses HTTP signatures to make sure messages and requests from other servers are legit,

                Essentially, it adds a "signature" header which contains a link to a users public key, a list of headers in the message and a signed hash of all the headers and the request.

                There's a better explaination here: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/security/

                A delicated bot to scrape ActivityPub posts is possible, but generic bots shouldn't work. If a delicated bot is made, people can block its keys or server anyway.

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                  The main problem with Lemmy, is I see the same 20-50 posts for 3-4 days until there is a new front page...

                  I fucking hate Reddit, but the front-page is always fresh, so I always end up going back....

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                  korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                  I find there is new content but so often a lot of it is US politics based. Some other stuff does exist but its hard to filter out the stuff I don't care about at times.

                  Sure I can subscribe to other communities, but finding them can be difficult and searching for all is swamped by Trump and Musk.

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                  • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG grrgyle@slrpnk.net

                    We might eventually have to get more exclusive, or have separate "public" and "private" modes/communities, maybe like how masto handles post visibility...

                    I'm not sure if the open internet can ever be fully trusted, especially now with roving packs of predatory crawlers scraping for genuine human OC for their plagiarism machines.

                    nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Private communities will be in 1.0, along with some other visibility modes.

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                    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      I do not, ActivityPub uses HTTP signatures to make sure messages and requests from other servers are legit,

                      Essentially, it adds a "signature" header which contains a link to a users public key, a list of headers in the message and a signed hash of all the headers and the request.

                      There's a better explaination here: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/security/

                      A delicated bot to scrape ActivityPub posts is possible, but generic bots shouldn't work. If a delicated bot is made, people can block its keys or server anyway.

                      nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Signatures are only used to deliver activities to inboxes. The Activitypub json data of posts is usually available without any auth.

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                      • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                        I find there is new content but so often a lot of it is US politics based. Some other stuff does exist but its hard to filter out the stuff I don't care about at times.

                        Sure I can subscribe to other communities, but finding them can be difficult and searching for all is swamped by Trump and Musk.

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                        It helps if you block all those communities you don't care about. Or even block some instances.

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