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MLS over ActivityPub Draft

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  • evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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    Good news in privacy for ActivityPub. The first early draft of the MLS over ActivityPub specification went out this week. It’s been part of my work on our E2EE for ActivityPub project at the Social Web Foundation.

    Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is an IETF standard for end-to-end encrypted (E2EE) messaging. It lets people on laptops and phones communicate with each other in a secure way that no one in between can see.

    MLS is designed to use pluggable lower-level protocols. This specification defines an envelope format for distributing MLS messages through the network, and an Activity Streams 2.0 profile for the packets of application data stored inside the messages.

    This specification is ready for review from both ActivityPub developers and security analysts. It’s time to start making proof-of-concept implementations and testing interoperability.

    The best place to make comments or report problems is on the ActivityPub E2EE GitHub repo issues list. I’m looking forward to these next steps!

    stefan@gardenstate.socialS davep@infosec.exchangeD ajn142@infosec.exchangeA julian@community.nodebb.orgJ 4 Replies Last reply
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    • evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.org

      Good news in privacy for ActivityPub. The first early draft of the MLS over ActivityPub specification went out this week. It’s been part of my work on our E2EE for ActivityPub project at the Social Web Foundation.

      Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is an IETF standard for end-to-end encrypted (E2EE) messaging. It lets people on laptops and phones communicate with each other in a secure way that no one in between can see.

      MLS is designed to use pluggable lower-level protocols. This specification defines an envelope format for distributing MLS messages through the network, and an Activity Streams 2.0 profile for the packets of application data stored inside the messages.

      This specification is ready for review from both ActivityPub developers and security analysts. It’s time to start making proof-of-concept implementations and testing interoperability.

      The best place to make comments or report problems is on the ActivityPub E2EE GitHub repo issues list. I’m looking forward to these next steps!

      stefan@gardenstate.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stefan@gardenstate.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @evanprodromou until you defined MLS I assumed this was about Major League Soccer.

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      • evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.org

        Good news in privacy for ActivityPub. The first early draft of the MLS over ActivityPub specification went out this week. It’s been part of my work on our E2EE for ActivityPub project at the Social Web Foundation.

        Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is an IETF standard for end-to-end encrypted (E2EE) messaging. It lets people on laptops and phones communicate with each other in a secure way that no one in between can see.

        MLS is designed to use pluggable lower-level protocols. This specification defines an envelope format for distributing MLS messages through the network, and an Activity Streams 2.0 profile for the packets of application data stored inside the messages.

        This specification is ready for review from both ActivityPub developers and security analysts. It’s time to start making proof-of-concept implementations and testing interoperability.

        The best place to make comments or report problems is on the ActivityPub E2EE GitHub repo issues list. I’m looking forward to these next steps!

        davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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        davep@infosec.exchange
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        @evanprodromou Very cool 😎

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        • evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.org

          Good news in privacy for ActivityPub. The first early draft of the MLS over ActivityPub specification went out this week. It’s been part of my work on our E2EE for ActivityPub project at the Social Web Foundation.

          Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is an IETF standard for end-to-end encrypted (E2EE) messaging. It lets people on laptops and phones communicate with each other in a secure way that no one in between can see.

          MLS is designed to use pluggable lower-level protocols. This specification defines an envelope format for distributing MLS messages through the network, and an Activity Streams 2.0 profile for the packets of application data stored inside the messages.

          This specification is ready for review from both ActivityPub developers and security analysts. It’s time to start making proof-of-concept implementations and testing interoperability.

          The best place to make comments or report problems is on the ActivityPub E2EE GitHub repo issues list. I’m looking forward to these next steps!

          ajn142@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
          ajn142@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @evanprodromou can’t wait to hear @soatok talk about this.

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          • ajn142@infosec.exchangeA ajn142@infosec.exchange

            @evanprodromou can’t wait to hear @soatok talk about this.

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            @evanprodromou @soatok and lol I check the GH issues and of course he’s already there.

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            • ajn142@infosec.exchangeA ajn142@infosec.exchange

              @evanprodromou @soatok and lol I check the GH issues and of course he’s already there.

              evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
              evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ajn142 VIP line

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              • evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.orgE evanprodromou@socialwebfoundation.org

                Good news in privacy for ActivityPub. The first early draft of the MLS over ActivityPub specification went out this week. It’s been part of my work on our E2EE for ActivityPub project at the Social Web Foundation.

                Messaging Layer Security (MLS) is an IETF standard for end-to-end encrypted (E2EE) messaging. It lets people on laptops and phones communicate with each other in a secure way that no one in between can see.

                MLS is designed to use pluggable lower-level protocols. This specification defines an envelope format for distributing MLS messages through the network, and an Activity Streams 2.0 profile for the packets of application data stored inside the messages.

                This specification is ready for review from both ActivityPub developers and security analysts. It’s time to start making proof-of-concept implementations and testing interoperability.

                The best place to make comments or report problems is on the ActivityPub E2EE GitHub repo issues list. I’m looking forward to these next steps!

                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                The use case seems clear: actual DMs on the fediverse. How does this interop with existing implementations that utilise direct addressing (and intentional omission of as:Public) as a form of direct messaging?

                As usual I am assuming we will have to support both.

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