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Seems like the perfect day to ask: Muricans, what's your dream country to expatriate to? Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

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  • T twinnie@feddit.uk

    I’ve always thought there’s two kinds of Americans; the ones who have a passport and the ones who don’t.

    If they’re willing to explore the world and recognise the US isn’t the whole universe I find them to be totally fine.

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    treadful@lemmy.zip
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    Whether or not someone has a passport is almost entirely based on the amount of wealth that person or their family has.

    Where I grew up, almost nobody traveled abroad because nobody could afford it. Or at most, back in the day they would drive to Canada because you could cross without a passport.

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    • carbonicedragon@pawb.socialC carbonicedragon@pawb.social

      The Netherlands probably, but with the massive grain of salt that I suspect that choosing a "ideal place to live" without actually having been to that place is likely to result in a skewed idea of what a place is truly like, and as I've never been outside the United States I have that issue when thinking about any other country. I also doubt they or anywhere else that might make my list of ideal places would want me, seeing as I'm just some random factory worker without any especially rare skill.

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      treadful@lemmy.zip
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      To me The Netherlands is just weed, bikes, trains, and canals. Sounds great.

      I'm also fairly sure it's not going to be as great as it sounds. And the language will probably be annoying and not very useful elsewhere.

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      • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS sterile_technique@lemmy.world

        Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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        Honestly lots of Western Europe, but personally: Iceland, Germany, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium, etc.

        Objectively places like Spain, Portugal, Malta, etc. would work.

        I have no delusions of ever making it as an immigrant in any of these countries. You need a lot of money.

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        • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS sterile_technique@lemmy.world

          Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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          general_effort@lemmy.world
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          Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

          Stand and fight, you cowards.

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          • T twinnie@feddit.uk

            I’ve always thought there’s two kinds of Americans; the ones who have a passport and the ones who don’t.

            If they’re willing to explore the world and recognise the US isn’t the whole universe I find them to be totally fine.

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            jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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            For some reason getting a passport is like $200, plus whatever it takes to get the required supporting documents (eg: birth certificate, the photo). That's not much by many metrics, but a lot of people in the US just don't have $200 to spend.

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            • G general_effort@lemmy.world

              Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

              Stand and fight, you cowards.

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              stinky@redlemmy.com
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              You're condemning a lot of innocent people to die.

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              • G general_effort@lemmy.world

                Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

                Stand and fight, you cowards.

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                blattrules@lemmy.world
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                How are we supposed to fight a nearly endless supply of morons along with overthrowing three branches of our government?

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                • B blattrules@lemmy.world

                  How are we supposed to fight a nearly endless supply of morons along with overthrowing three branches of our government?

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                  promitheas@programming.dev
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                  Have you not been screaming about guns for as long as anyone alive can remember?

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                  • B bwaz@lemmy.world

                    Portugal, though I doubt they want Americans any more.

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                    promitheas@programming.dev
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                    Sorry to be an idiot but what recently happened to make Portugal not want Americans?

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                    • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB bebopalouie@lemmy.ca

                      Age-verification laws have spread throughout the states in the last two years. It ain’t going to get better.

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                      kaboom@reddthat.com
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                      What's stupid is I can get behind the idea, kids shouldn't be watching porn, but the way they're going about is just so stupid I can't defend it

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                      • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                        For some reason getting a passport is like $200, plus whatever it takes to get the required supporting documents (eg: birth certificate, the photo). That's not much by many metrics, but a lot of people in the US just don't have $200 to spend.

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                        iegod@lemmy.zip
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                        Drop in the bucket compared to the cost of travel. Your point still stands though.

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                        • promitheas@programming.devP promitheas@programming.dev

                          Have you not been screaming about guns for as long as anyone alive can remember?

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                          toofpic@lemmy.world
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                          the morons were the ones also screaming about guns

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                          • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneD dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            Honestly lots of Western Europe, but personally: Iceland, Germany, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium, etc.

                            Objectively places like Spain, Portugal, Malta, etc. would work.

                            I have no delusions of ever making it as an immigrant in any of these countries. You need a lot of money.

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                            toofpic@lemmy.world
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                            No, you need to find some job and rent a room
                            As a US citizen you have right to work in most of those countries. Without that right, it would be a different story

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                            • T toofpic@lemmy.world

                              the morons were the ones also screaming about guns

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                              promitheas@programming.dev
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                              And that stops the non-morons from using the guns to end the morons rule how?

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                              • stinky@redlemmy.comS stinky@redlemmy.com

                                You're condemning a lot of innocent people to die.

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                                general_effort@lemmy.world
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                                Cut the histrionics. Americans aren't being massacred. They are only asked to go to some minor inconvenience to uphold their country's democracy.

                                The distance between Chicago and Las Vegas is greater than between Berlin and the Russian front line in Ukraine. Are Germans supposed to feel pity for you poor darlings?

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                                • bebopalouie@lemmy.caB bebopalouie@lemmy.ca

                                  Why is the difference between immigrant and ex patriot?

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                                  sorryimlate@piefed.social
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                                  Ex patriots move to work in a foreign country for a limited period, with the intention of returning to their home country. Typically these are white collar workers who move between their employer's offices for 2-3 years and then return home.

                                  Immigrants move with the intention of staying in the new country long term.

                                  However, with the negative connotations attached to immigrants, some people - primarily white, highly educated people - incorrectly refer to themselves as expats, even once it's clear they intend to stay.

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                                  • K kaboom@reddthat.com

                                    No where. I like America. What are my other options, realistically? Britain which just banned porn? Australia which banned Hentai? Canada, which is just America but cold and sky high housing costs?

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                                    lemminary@lemmy.world
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                                    Not surprising when you think Twitter is the least biased social media out there. Your stance on porn boils down to "think of the children 😩" and you think that's the end goal. You seem quite deserving of the US, so have at it.

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                                    • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS sterile_technique@lemmy.world

                                      Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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                                      nastybutler@lemmy.world
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                                      Dream country? Monaco, lol. But more realistically either Canada, Australia or New Zealand

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                                      • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS sterile_technique@lemmy.world

                                        Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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                                        corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                                        Hey. If yanks get get to Canada, and get in, I'm sure we'd love to have ya.

                                        There's a catch: if you're not fleeing persecution, you're gonna need a skill. It bumps up your score on the big calculation they do, and if you can keep doing the skilled work you may one day afford to live somewhere other than winnipeg.

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                                        • T toofpic@lemmy.world

                                          No, you need to find some job and rent a room
                                          As a US citizen you have right to work in most of those countries. Without that right, it would be a different story

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                                          corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                                          As a US citizen you have right to work in most of those countries.

                                          Nope. Absolutely none of those appear to allow working with just a US passport.

                                          Without that right, it would be a different story

                                          ... Because I think it is.

                                          But, to be fair, I only did a little searching. If you have a reference - like a page from the gov of Denmark saying "Yanks are cool: come in and get to work" - I'd love to be proved wrong. My nephew needs to see the world, and working is how it's done.

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