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  • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
    scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
    scott@loves.tech
    wrote on last edited by
    #4
    In Hubzilla, I was able to follow this user by pasting this URL into the "Add Connection" box:

    #^https://community.nodebb.org/user/%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A6%D7%99

    I copied the URL in the browser for that user's profile (which contained the Hebrew characters). When I pasted it, it converted it to UTF-8 text (seen above).

    Hubzilla was able to find the user based on that UTF-8 URL. So it is possible to follow such an account, at least with Hubzilla, via the UTF-8 URL.

    It could not find %D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A6%D7%99@community.nodebb.org though, probably because NodeBB is not expecting the UTF-8 version of the username.
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    • mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mro@digitalcourage.social
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      Hi @julian,
      as long as nobody cares about the according standards, the #fediverse will be a brittle nerd niche.

      The according standard is IMO https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7565.html#:~:text=userpart ( #RFC7033 and #RFC7565 ) referring to https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7564#section-4.2.1.

      What you find in the wild, however, is a different story as thee is no agreed upon #validator service nowhere.

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      • mikedev@fediversity.siteM This user is from outside of this forum
        mikedev@fediversity.siteM This user is from outside of this forum
        mikedev@fediversity.site
        wrote on last edited by
        #6
        We accept punycode usernames and render appropriately; or pass through UTF-8 usernames. The biggest issue is autocomplete; so we provided that using  aliases/petnames for connections. Probably will have issues on some platforms.
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        • לאצי@community.nodebb.orgל This user is from outside of this forum
          לאצי@community.nodebb.orgל This user is from outside of this forum
          לאצי@community.nodebb.org
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          Hi, hello everyone. I'm sorry to hear that I can't be followed because of my username characters. Does this mean that I can't be followed here on the forum or is it something else?
          Also, should I change my username to English characters?

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          • לאצי@community.nodebb.orgל לאצי@community.nodebb.org

            Hi, hello everyone. I'm sorry to hear that I can't be followed because of my username characters. Does this mean that I can't be followed here on the forum or is it something else?
            Also, should I change my username to English characters?

            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
            julian@community.nodebb.org
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            לאצי don't worry about it! You shouldn't have to alter your username just to suit our latin-character world 😁

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            • K This user is from outside of this forum
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              kichae@community.nodebb.org
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              Huh. My Lemmy mobile client has the handle and host inverted. It doesn't look like this in the default web UI, though.

              Also, my post from Lemmy hasn't landed here yet.

              image.png

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              • S This user is from outside of this forum
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                schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                For what it's worth, I'm reading this thread from Lemmy and can see this comment of yours and access your profile, so in principle there isn't anything wrong with your username.

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                • mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mro@digitalcourage.social
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  Hi @kichae,
                  fun with RTL. How is it supposed to be?

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                  • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

                    Hi @kichae,
                    fun with RTL. How is it supposed to be?

                    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    julian@community.nodebb.org
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    mro@digitalcourage.social the order of the Hebrew characters is correct, although I believe it should be wrapped in <bdi> tags so the rest of the line isn't affected 🙂</bdi>

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                    • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
                      scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
                      scott@loves.tech
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13
                      @לאצי I agree with @julian, you shouldn't don't have to change your username. It's just a technical hurdle to jump over.

                      Since I can follow you on Hubzilla (via a specific URL), I don't think it is an issue with ActivityPub or WebFinger. I'm sure there is some solution that would allow other platforms to follow your account.
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                      • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
                        scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
                        scott@loves.tech
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14
                        @julian I just reported the issue over on the @Hubzilla Support Forum and created an issue in our repository.

                        #^https://hubzilla.org/channel/adminsforum?mid=7296e345-0ba9-51f9-b376-8e29368f3a07

                        Note: To prevent spam, you must be following adminsforum@hubzilla.org to participate in the Hubzilla Support Forum.
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                        • לאצי@community.nodebb.orgל This user is from outside of this forum
                          לאצי@community.nodebb.orgל This user is from outside of this forum
                          לאצי@community.nodebb.org
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          I'm curious about how the forum https://mitmachim.top/, which operates entirely in Hebrew, deals with the issue of Unicode usernames. Does this issue even exist there? Also, it's worth noting that Mitmachim Top is based on NodeBB.

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                          • לאצי@community.nodebb.orgל לאצי@community.nodebb.org

                            I'm curious about how the forum https://mitmachim.top/, which operates entirely in Hebrew, deals with the issue of Unicode usernames. Does this issue even exist there? Also, it's worth noting that Mitmachim Top is based on NodeBB.

                            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            julian@community.nodebb.org
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            לאצי the usernames work fine locally (that is, on the site itself). It's when interoperating with other sites not running NodeBB where there are issues, it seems 🙂

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                              pamasich@kbin.earth
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                              #17

                              The ActivityPub and WebFinger spec does mention that Mastodon has some strict requirements there. Only alphanumeric characters, underscores, dashes, and dots.

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