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How Much Each Project Gets Monthly in USD

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  • H hakase@lemmy.zip

    No money for tankie devs!

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    osrsneedsf2p@lemmy.ml
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    I mean you can always find an excuse not to donate

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    • O osrsneedsf2p@lemmy.ml

      I mean you can always find an excuse not to donate

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      hakase@lemmy.zip
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      I'm honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I'd set up a recurring donation.

      But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.

      The ball's in their court.

      Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.

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      • sunshine@lemmy.caS sunshine@lemmy.ca

        Donate to Piefed

        Donate to Lemmy

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        nutomic@lemmy.ml
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        Now calculate the donations per active user and the difference becomes very small.

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        • baroqueinmind@piefed.socialB baroqueinmind@piefed.social

          I moved to Piefed because the Lemmy devs are pro-fascist tankies. I can provide proof.

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          nutomic@lemmy.ml
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          If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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          • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

            If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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            skavau@piefed.social
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            #12

            Ignoring the "fascist" criticism, the fact that you reply to this with Fidel Castro as your PFP is amusing.

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            • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

              If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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              lemminary@lemmy.world
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              First you gotta ask Dessalines why he's banning people for shit like this and then hiding it under Rule 1.

              https://lemmy.world/post/32825174
              https://lemmy.world/post/32776038
              https://lemmy.world/post/32720652
              https://lemmy.world/post/32425984

              And here's your other admin, Davel

              https://lemmy.world/post/32627834

              Oh yeah, and the time you guys federated with Hexbear and were all buddy-buddy with their tankiejerk comments in the announcement post.

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              • S skavau@piefed.social

                Ignoring the "fascist" criticism, the fact that you reply to this with Fidel Castro as your PFP is amusing.

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                nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                #14

                I'm glad that you are amused.

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                • takapapatapaka@lemmy.worldT takapapatapaka@lemmy.world

                  I mean, it's equivalent to the minimum salary i guess. I think they're european, and in france the minimum salary is around 1800€ before taxes. That's not a lot in the absolute, but in the foss world, it is quite comfortable.

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                  nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                  It's definitely wrong to say we're poor, no idea where people got that idea. Yet the amount of money we get is very little for a Lead Developer. It also doesn't allow us to pay any additional developers.

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                  • H hakase@lemmy.zip

                    I'm honestly looking for any reasonable excuse I can to donate. I had a conversation with the devs back when they were begging across Lemmy a few months ago, and I told them that even if they just committed to stop moderating on .ml (while still running it as admins as their test instance), I'd set up a recurring donation.

                    But as we can clearly see from their ridiculous behavior recently as recorded on the various tankiejerk communities, they have not done so, and so I am not morally comfortable with sending them any money.

                    The ball's in their court.

                    Edit: Remember, folks, that when baited by someone from lemmygrad or hexbear, the only correct response is to not engage.

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                    nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                    #16

                    First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.

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                    • L lemminary@lemmy.world

                      First you gotta ask Dessalines why he's banning people for shit like this and then hiding it under Rule 1.

                      https://lemmy.world/post/32825174
                      https://lemmy.world/post/32776038
                      https://lemmy.world/post/32720652
                      https://lemmy.world/post/32425984

                      And here's your other admin, Davel

                      https://lemmy.world/post/32627834

                      Oh yeah, and the time you guys federated with Hexbear and were all buddy-buddy with their tankiejerk comments in the announcement post.

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                      nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                      First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.

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                      • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                        If you have to slander us, at least try to make it believable.

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                        maeve@kbin.earth
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                        It's written, so it's libel in the USA. Not sure where you are or if it's different.

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                        • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                          First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.

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                          lemminary@lemmy.world
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                          Are you trying to pull a Regina George, or...? I think it's pretty clear why people abhor your instance when everyone's getting a piece of it from the very admins.

                          Anyway, we're not talking about that. You said it was slander, and there you have it, it turns out it's not.

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                          • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                            First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.

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                            socsa@piefed.social
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                            I don't know what other people said. My problem has always been that the donations pay for Dessalines to be everything he claims to hate about reddit.

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                            • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                              First you people complained that donations were paying for lemmy.ml hosting. As soon as that was addressed you moved the goalposts to something different. Clearly it makes no sense to jump through hoops for people who are never going to donate anyway.

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                              hakase@lemmy.zip
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                              Why are you making this up when you can literally go back and reread our conversation? I'd do it myself just to copy/paste the whole conversation here, but it was on my lemm.ee account and in the lemmy.ee "Lemmy needs more donations" thread so I can't access it anymore. Feel free to do so - I have nothing to hide.

                              Being this disingenuous isn't winning you any points.

                              Edit: Hell, I'm the one who gave ground here. My original stance was that you needed to give up all association with .ml entirely, and I backed off of that position when I heard how necessary it was as a dev instance.

                              I'm practically bending over backward here to give you money, and you just won't let me.

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                              • M maeve@kbin.earth

                                It's written, so it's libel in the USA. Not sure where you are or if it's different.

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                                nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                                I'm not a lawyer and people don't speak English in my country. So I don't really care how it works on another continent, as long as you get the meaning.

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                                • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                  I'm glad that you are amused.

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                                  baroqueinmind@piefed.social
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                                  I hate tankies, but I think Castro had great socialist policies to provide good education and healthcare to all. It's silly to assume something from simply appearances and profile pics because that would be dumb as fuck

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                                  • nutomic@lemmy.mlN nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                    First you can explain why some people are so obsessed with lemmy.ml that they keep posting about every little thing that happens and even organize a "boycott" (lol). Personally I completely ignore all the politics communities on Lemmy, it's much more relaxed this way.

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                                    tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                    whines about politics, yet has account on extremist tankie instance of politics. you're no better than conservatives to be honest, they use the same exact denial-speak.

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                                    • H hakase@lemmy.zip

                                      Why are you making this up when you can literally go back and reread our conversation? I'd do it myself just to copy/paste the whole conversation here, but it was on my lemm.ee account and in the lemmy.ee "Lemmy needs more donations" thread so I can't access it anymore. Feel free to do so - I have nothing to hide.

                                      Being this disingenuous isn't winning you any points.

                                      Edit: Hell, I'm the one who gave ground here. My original stance was that you needed to give up all association with .ml entirely, and I backed off of that position when I heard how necessary it was as a dev instance.

                                      I'm practically bending over backward here to give you money, and you just won't let me.

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                                      nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                                      Sorry I talked with many dozens of people about this topic and dont remember what you specifically said. In my head it all got mixed together into a single conversation.

                                      The way I see it, funding for Lemmy development is an entirely separate issue from the moderation of lemmy.ml. The moderation for an instance should only be decided by its local admins and users. Imagine lemmy.ml users going around and saying that lemmy.zip must change this or that thing. You would tell them to mind their own business, and with good reason.

                                      I found your reply now, here it is. You were asking for lemmy.ml donations to be separate from other donations. This was already addressed long ago, see here.

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                                      • socsa@piefed.socialS socsa@piefed.social

                                        I don't know what other people said. My problem has always been that the donations pay for Dessalines to be everything he claims to hate about reddit.

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                                        nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                                        Of the two us us Dessalines is the one who needs funding the least, he was fine with the previous donation amount of 1000 Euros per dev. Im the one who created the call for donations because I have two small children to feed. So whether you donate or not isnt going to change Dessalines' mind at all.

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                                        • L lemminary@lemmy.world

                                          Are you trying to pull a Regina George, or...? I think it's pretty clear why people abhor your instance when everyone's getting a piece of it from the very admins.

                                          Anyway, we're not talking about that. You said it was slander, and there you have it, it turns out it's not.

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                                          nutomic@lemmy.ml
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                                          Thats a character from "Mean Girls"? Never watched that series. Those who abhor lemmy.ml could simply ignore it, there are plenty of tools available. Instead some people spend all day complaining about it. Seems so pointless and exhausing when they could do something useful with their time instead, and post about things that they like.

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