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  • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

    Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous...

    1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that's the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
    2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
    3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
    4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

    Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

    So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

    To enable them, simply navigate over to the "Push Notifications" menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

    6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

    So, let's dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

    The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

    baris@community.nodebb.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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    baris@community.nodebb.org
    wrote on last edited by
    #19

    On windows you need to enable notifications in the OS settings, it wasn't working without that for me.

    image.png

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    • baris@community.nodebb.orgB baris@community.nodebb.org

      On windows you need to enable notifications in the OS settings, it wasn't working without that for me.

      image.png

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      phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      baris thanks. That setting is already on for me.

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      • phenomlab@community.nodebb.orgP phenomlab@community.nodebb.org

        baris thanks. That setting is already on for me.

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        julian@community.nodebb.org
        wrote on last edited by
        #21

        phenomlab you need to be on v4.

        Alternatively I believe you can update the service worker manually with the one from the ActivityPub branch.

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        • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

          phenomlab you need to be on v4.

          Alternatively I believe you can update the service worker manually with the one from the ActivityPub branch.

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          phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
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          #22

          julian thanks. I'll check this later.

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          • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

            The plugin also successfully removes notifications if they're no longer relevant (e.g. queued posts that have already been handled), and merges notification content just like it does in-app:

            22b1cb96-3763-48e9-b890-3f8443ace075-image.png

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            julian@community.nodebb.org
            wrote on last edited by
            #23

            v0.7.0 of the Push Notification plugin has been released

            • Notification related service worker code that was initially included in v4 core is now served by the web-push plugin directly, allowing v3.x compatibility.
            • Compatibility updated from v4 to v3.10.x
              • Meaning if you want to try this out on your existing NodeBB, you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0, or by updating to the latest commit on the develop branch
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            • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

              v0.7.0 of the Push Notification plugin has been released

              • Notification related service worker code that was initially included in v4 core is now served by the web-push plugin directly, allowing v3.x compatibility.
              • Compatibility updated from v4 to v3.10.x
                • Meaning if you want to try this out on your existing NodeBB, you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0, or by updating to the latest commit on the develop branch
              phenomlab@community.nodebb.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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              phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              julian when does 3.10 come out? 😁

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              • phenomlab@community.nodebb.orgP phenomlab@community.nodebb.org

                julian when does 3.10 come out? 😁

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                julian@community.nodebb.org
                wrote on last edited by
                #25

                phenomlab Right now 😆

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                • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                  phenomlab Right now 😆

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                  phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #26

                  julian Hmm - still not working for me... 😞

                  EDIT - works on my Android phone, but not on my PC - guessing it's likely security software.
                  EDIT 2 - suspicion confirmed. It's caused by NordVPN. If running, the push notification doesn't work - if disabled, it works fine.

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                  • phenomlab@community.nodebb.orgP phenomlab@community.nodebb.org

                    julian Hmm - still not working for me... 😞

                    EDIT - works on my Android phone, but not on my PC - guessing it's likely security software.
                    EDIT 2 - suspicion confirmed. It's caused by NordVPN. If running, the push notification doesn't work - if disabled, it works fine.

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                    julian@community.nodebb.org
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #27

                    phenomlab said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB:
                    > NordVPN

                    Thanks for closing the loop! Kind of annoying that NordVPN blocks them...

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                    • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                      phenomlab said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB:
                      > NordVPN

                      Thanks for closing the loop! Kind of annoying that NordVPN blocks them...

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                      phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #28

                      julian Yes, very, and their support isn't up to much either in the sense of wanting to fix it. I've had to change my VPN usage from machine level (which I prefer) to browser level - as long as the internet traffic is secured, that's good enough for the time being.

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                      • phenomlab@community.nodebb.orgP phenomlab@community.nodebb.org

                        julian Yes, very, and their support isn't up to much either in the sense of wanting to fix it. I've had to change my VPN usage from machine level (which I prefer) to browser level - as long as the internet traffic is secured, that's good enough for the time being.

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                        julian@community.nodebb.org
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #29

                        phenomlab curious, was it also blocking push notifications from this site as well?

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                        • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                          phenomlab curious, was it also blocking push notifications from this site as well?

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                          phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
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                          #30

                          julian yes

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                          • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                            v0.7.0 of the Push Notification plugin has been released

                            • Notification related service worker code that was initially included in v4 core is now served by the web-push plugin directly, allowing v3.x compatibility.
                            • Compatibility updated from v4 to v3.10.x
                              • Meaning if you want to try this out on your existing NodeBB, you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0, or by updating to the latest commit on the develop branch
                            dave1904@community.nodebb.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            dave1904@community.nodebb.org
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #31

                            julian said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB:
                            > you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0

                            Hi,

                            I'm on 3.10.0 but still see the ntfy notification plugin. Are native push notifications available if updating to current version?

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                            • dave1904@community.nodebb.orgD dave1904@community.nodebb.org

                              julian said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB:
                              > you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0

                              Hi,

                              I'm on 3.10.0 but still see the ntfy notification plugin. Are native push notifications available if updating to current version?

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                              phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #32

                              dave1904 it's part of core - have a look under /me/web-push. If you use this, then you'll need to disable ntfy

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                              • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                                Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous...

                                1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that's the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                                2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                                3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                                4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                                Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                                So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                                To enable them, simply navigate over to the "Push Notifications" menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                                6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                                So, let's dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                                The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                                dave1904@community.nodebb.org
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #33

                                To use the native notifications i have to disable ntfy first?

                                Edit: After disabling there are no notifications settings under user settings. So I guess I have to update the software

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                                • dave1904@community.nodebb.orgD dave1904@community.nodebb.org

                                  To use the native notifications i have to disable ntfy first?

                                  Edit: After disabling there are no notifications settings under user settings. So I guess I have to update the software

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                                  phenomlab@community.nodebb.org
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #34

                                  dave1904 sorry. It's not core. You need to install nodebb-plugin-web-push and then you'll see the section I mentioned previously.

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                                  • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                                    Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous...

                                    1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that's the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                                    2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                                    3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                                    4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                                    Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                                    So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                                    To enable them, simply navigate over to the "Push Notifications" menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                                    6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                                    So, let's dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                                    The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                                    dave1904@community.nodebb.org
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #35

                                    phenomlab found the plugin, thanks!

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                                    • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                                      Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous...

                                      1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that's the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                                      2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                                      3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                                      4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                                      Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                                      So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                                      To enable them, simply navigate over to the "Push Notifications" menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                                      6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                                      So, let's dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                                      The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                                      pankaj-soni@community.nodebb.org
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #36

                                      This requires me to toggle this on by going to my user's profile. is there a way this can be made default 'on' for all users on platform?

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                                      • pankaj-soni@community.nodebb.orgP pankaj-soni@community.nodebb.org

                                        This requires me to toggle this on by going to my user's profile. is there a way this can be made default 'on' for all users on platform?

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                                        julian@community.nodebb.org
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #37

                                        Pankaj-Soni yes and no... the enabling of the push notifications requires a discrete user action — the user has to actually press the switch to enable notifications.

                                        There are ways we can advertise this to end users, so I will look into adding those soon. For now, users will have to go into their user settings to enable push notifications.

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                                        • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ julian@community.nodebb.org

                                          Pankaj-Soni yes and no... the enabling of the push notifications requires a discrete user action — the user has to actually press the switch to enable notifications.

                                          There are ways we can advertise this to end users, so I will look into adding those soon. For now, users will have to go into their user settings to enable push notifications.

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                                          bh4-tech@community.nodebb.org
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                                          #38

                                          julian Just like pankaj-soni , I too would like to have push notifications on by default

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